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'I remember riding out there (the old Abbey)

 on our motor bikes on dark nights'   -    Michael

 

'Used to visit the Abbey grounds and manor ruins

 to go birdwatching'   -   Fred

 

'We all trooped upstairs (The Parish Hall)

for refreshments-Zing, I think it was'   -   Kay

 

'Eating cockles at The Running Horses

from the Sefton Seafood man.

Then up to the Scotch Piper

for a beer out the wooden keg '   -   George



Great photo here of the Weld Blundell in the 1920's and Pope's shop nearby.


Looks like the Lydiate litter pickers were needed !! I wonder who is in the photo.






Robin Moore has sent this photo of his brother Phil in Barnes Drive, Lydiate 1952.

He writes, " I spent my first months in Barnes Drive ...with parents  Ray and Debbie Moore."

(14th August 2016) 

 





Jill Hetherington's photograph of St. Thomas school children .
Infants about 1955.

"I am attaching a photograph taken in the younger children's school room at Lydiate School probably in 1955.

The children on the photograph that I know the names of are:

left to right - Gillian Thomas (me), Stephen Breithaupt (not sure of the

spelling), Chris Gibson, ? , Linda Hooton, Helen Silcock, Joan Duncan, ?

, and in front of the last 3  Jane Roulston.I think it was 1955."

Isn't this a lovely photograph-many thanks Jill



Mel Tarplee has sent in a photograph of Oakfield House, Liverpool Road, Lydiate

Her grandfather Nicholas Grimshaw is standing outside the house.

 He died in 1938 and the photograph is thought to have been taken around 1930

He was a market gardener and he also bred dogs and flew pigeons

At one time he had a grocer's shop in Liverpool.

He was also the outlet for the area for the bookmakers,

as they had  a telephone and people would ring in with bets to be placed.

Many thanks to Mel for this photograph.





Bob Allin has some memories of Lydiate


I was pleased to discover this site. Thanks to all the contributors for their memories.

Also, thanks to those taking the trouble to post them on the site.

I was born in 1946. Lived on Southport Road and attended St Thomas School from 1951 to 1957.

I left Lydiate in 1966 and have lived at Shrewsbury, Wigan and eventually Leeds.

Married in 1968, we have 3 children and 3 grandchildren.

Many memories of life and school experiences come to mind.

How many times do I thank Mrs Carr and Miss Halsall for the scholastic foundation they took the trouble to lay!

There are many obscure (and trivial) things that come to mind:

Does anyone recall the excavation for sand in the field at the back of the school (circa 1953)?

The hauliers of the sand were ‘Armstrong’. They had red wagons if I remember correctly.

The wagon livery included a ‘muscular arm’. Being able to remember this illustrates the benefit of a well-chosen logo.

The excavated area must have been 300M long. I seem to recall it stretched from the back of the school playground

to the cart track leading to Billys Bridge.

The boys’ playground surface was fine cinder which was not too good if anyone fell on it.

The prospect of having a sand surface must have appealed to the older boys.

I was possibly 3 years younger than them and so stood back

and witnessed the pleadings and negotiations that the boys had with the excavator driver.

The objective was to get the driver to deposit a drag line bucket of sand into the playground.

The driver eventually relented and tipped a half bucket of sand over the wall. This was positioned to the right of the gate leading onto the playing field.

Did any of those boys use their negotiating skills later in life? Did they get into trouble with Mrs Carr?

Sincerely

Bob (Robert) Allin

bob.allin@live.co.uk

Bob has also sent  this photo

St Thomas Choir trip circa 1953-4.

A few of the names I can recall are: 


Bob Carmichael, Ken Hunt?, Eric Carmichael, Alan Carmichael, 


John Proctor, Martin Jones, Billy Rigby? Eddie Allin and myself.



Here's a photo of Kidgers shop on Liverpool Road  around 1960 ish!

(thanks to M Stalker) more of Lydiate Rose Queen 1960's here


Two photos of children at St Thomas C.E School

(when it was on Southport Road) around 1966-67.

Thanks to Ross Duggan.

(if anyone has a contact number / e-mail for the Glayzer family

can you e-mail lydiateworld @ hotmail . co  . uk  )

Taken in the playground with the Parish Hall field in the background

County Sports at Burscough ?


Ross Duggan has added some memories 


I have today chanced upon this fascinating site and add the following:-
 
From 1960 I was brought up at 252 Southport Road. My father was Heaton Duggan (Bowers Radio, Maghull)

and my mother was Mona Duggan (later the Ormskirk historian, died 2014).

 My sister Janet and I attended the original St Thomas School, by the Parish Hall on Southport Road

 where we were taught by Mrs Carr, Miss Halsall and Mr Glayzer. What a fine old fashioned school it was!

 60 pupils in all with an excellent family atmosphere. No one cared about the leaking roof, open fires and toilet “across the yard”!

I remember so many names and faces and would welcome contact by email.

I then went to school in Crosby, to University and worked in the law.
 
I well remember John Smith whose entry, alongside those of his late father, I enjoyed.

I have lost touch with the Hankins and the others mentioned. Memories extend to all the little shops mentioned.

There was rivalry. My mother was barred from Popes when she patronised a rival, possibly Foxes.

Our play involved the Roulston’s tennis court next door, the canal bank, the Pads to Pygons Hill and from Pilling Lane.

The subsequent development is startling. Open fields extended from Moss Lane to Lambshear Lane and Manion Avenue came later.
 
Ross Duggan 3/12/2014

Ross can be contacted at :

Josie Duroe (nee Armstrong) has found  this photo from Whit Sunday mid 1940's

Some names are :


Front row right in the middle Dorothy Cull.

2nd row up from the left, me(Josie) ,Betty Charles, Norma Shoebridge?  dont know

Violet Leatherbarrow,   Pauline (my sister)  Laura Gatley?

3rd row up Rhoda Leatherbarrow? Betty Armstrong, Jill Spencer. Not sure about the rest. !!!


PAT BRECKELL (NEE  ARMSTRONG) HAS WRITTEN SOME MEMORIES OF OLD LYDIATE

"HI EVERYONE, I AM PAT BRECKELL[NEE ARMSTRONG] LIVED FACING BUXTONS SAW MILL . I STILL LIVE IN THE SAME SPOT.

I WAS BORN 1936 ,LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE, SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES NOT FOR THE BETTER I MIGHT.

MY BROTHER MALCOLM [MALLY] WAS A KEEN FISHERMAN ALWAYS HAD HIS DOG WITH HIM, UNFORTUNATELY HE DIED AGED 56.

HE USED TO PLAY WITH ALAN O DONNELL AND LINFORD SHACKLADY. SAW COMMENTS FROM LINFORD.

NO ONE HAS MENTIONED HARRY HANNEN.

HE  HAD A COTTAGE ON THE CANALBANK, LEFT OF THE BRIDGE AT  BELLS LANE.

HE BRED CAIRN TERRIERS, I SUPPOSE HE WAS THE LOCAL VET.

DOES ANYONE REMEMBER JOHN  VASCO AND ETHEL AND RONNIE GALVANI -THEY WERE EVACUEES  AND STAYED IN LAMBSHEAR LANE.

ALSO WE USED TO CALL FROM SCHOOL WHERE  THE SHEILING IS NOW, AND MR AND MRS BOND HAD A COTTAGE WHERE  THE RIDING SCHOOL IS.

WE USED TO GET A PILE OF APPLES OR PEARS FOR A PENNY.

HAPPY DAYS, I YEARN FOR THE OLD LYDIATE. "


This is a great Photograph originally posted on the ,"I Grew Up In Maghull, " Facebook page.

Miss Leonards Dance School at Liverpool with Margot Fonteyn, not sure which year.

Does anyone remember the school when it was in Lydiate

down a road at the bottom of Coronation Road?




 Sarah Stennett  writes........"My sister Anne Stennett and my brother Frank Stennett lived in Alexander Drive with my mother Rose and father Frank.
We went to Lambshear Lane school then Deyes.
We picked flowers and would ride our bikes with Melanie Shaw and Janice Quinn to bluebell wood.
We would push each other in the canal for fun.
Go to the disco at the youth club.
We would pick strawberries at Rigbies farm for extra cash and spend it on sweets and fags on the way home at the Running Horses.
I learnt to ride a horse near the Scotch Piper, learnt to play the piano with Mrs Bibby and dance with Mrs Leneard.
Oh good times.
Lovely site thank you so much.
Love to all I knew there .
I now live in London. "

Sarah Stennett xxx


Richard Shacklady has been in touch. Here are his memories of Lydiate.


(Sorry about the small print-I just copied it from an e-mail ! )


I have come across this site by accident and it brought childhood memories flooding back.I am  now 65 and left Lydiate when I was 18 to go to University and return once or twice a year to visit family graves at St Thomas.I am Richard Linford Shacklady and grew up with my sister Sarah Ann at Elder View in Lambshear Lane opposite Lydiate Primary School. Having done a tour of the country my wife and I have settled in Derbyshire , 37 years and  my sister Sarah Ann lives in Kent.


Elder View was built by my maternal great grandparents Thomas and Emma Berry. It was a farm with land stretching to Nedens Lane where my paternal grandparents, Shackladys lived in Laburnum Cottage, after moving from Aughton in the 1930s. Lambshear Lane School and large parts of the council estate were built on the family farm. We went to the new school and remember Mr Pickup the Head, Miss McMahon final year teacher and Mr Marshall who took the boys for sport lessons. I then went to Maghull Grammar School in 1959, then a new school, and my sister to Deyes Lane , the former Grammar School which became a Secondary Modern School. I recall being in the church choir with Billy Howard and the Vicars ( Rev Owen Hughes) sons , the Cubs and then Scouts, scoutmaster George Adams . Walking or cycling home from choir practise and throwing bangers over the canal bridge on to passing barges and running off whilst the bargeman swore at us. Playing football and cricket in what was then a quiet country lane  with Peter Coppull and Alan ODonnell from down the Lane or Alan Kelly from the Drumworks ,  or going up to  Haigh Crescent to play football with Billy Howard and his friends from next door. The Lydiate I recall had very few houses beyond Lambshear Lane, behind Elder View was Tyrers Rose Nursery stretching all the way to the Weld Blundell and it was farm land all the way to Pygons Hill. On Southport Road after the Saw Mill and the Drumworks , both now built over,  there were 4 new houses and then all farm land to where the bus terminus (triangle) was. I recall that the Bartons lived in the first house next to the bus stop for Ormskirk and Southport buses.

The other side of the lane was the rose nursery , Tyrers, run by Bill Tyrer and his father  which had its main entrance on Southport Road, their old house still stands back about 200 yards along from Lambshear Lane. The Tyrers sold out to builders when I was about 18 and it all started to change then with further creep of building on to what still is high class fertile soil  on both sides of Southport Road. Ronnie Rigby sold the other side which backs on to the canal shortly after the Tyrer land was built over. The rest of our side of Lambshear Lane up to Sandy Lane  were  fields, farmed by Dick Cropper whose farmhouse still stands toward the end of Sandy Lane. Elder View stood alone and is  now painted white but I have early C20 pics of it in original brick finish with the front header Stone which reads TEB ( Thomas and Emma Berry 1874). The rear view from Elder View was clear fields across to Pygons Hill and beyond. I sold Elder View when my father Richard Shacklady died in 1986 and as such it passed out of our family.. My father went to the original St. Thomas school and we used to go there for choir practise in winter so we did not have to walk or bike in the dark .

Peter Coppull-his father Joe, ran a carpentry and joiners workshop, making and repairing wooden doors and windows with his brother who lived in the house in front of the workshop fronting on to Liverpool Road. At the bottom of Haigh Crescent, there used to be a path way through at the bottom left onto  Liverpool Road, past the carpentry shop and we kids used to walk down there and watch them work .The path at the bottom right of Haigh Crescent was a proper paved path past the houses to the shops -notably Kidgers and the Off License - they would not serve young folks unless they knew you. The Coppulls joinery shop was originally run by Peter's grandfather and  made cart wheels and repaired wooden farm carts for horse drawn agricultural carts.

Laburnham Cottage was, still is I think,  in Nedhams Lane, turn up from Southport Road and its  immediately on the left set back . It had a laburnham arch over the path to the door and looked wonderful in early Spring.

I am  not sure I want to go back to live in Lydiate; in my mind it is as it was as I grew up a rural farming community beyond the urban sprawl of Maghull . My family were farmers in Lydiate and Aughton and my ancestors are buried in St Thomas and before St Thomas was built St Michaels ,Aughton .My father went to school with Billy Howards father, Jim, and his brother Joe and sister Alice who married to become Petrica. The Bartons and Sawyers at the bottom of Lambshear Lane on Southport Road were all related to the  Flatmans,  gamekeepers in Altcar. Blundells and  Rimmers were other old Lydiate families.

The Bootle Belle

I remember going on a barge on the Cut for the Coronation , the barge was called the Bootle Belle and we sailed as far as the first lock at Parbold , all off and walk up Parbold Hill and back . It took all day and it seemed a big adventure to us kids. In the evening my Father had a big bonfire on the field above our house in Lambshear Lane and nearly all the Lambshear Lane families came- the Mums had baked cakes, made toffee  and we were allowed to throw spuds into the fire to bake. A lot were lost in the fire and found next day burnt to cinders.The  picture on the site  is the Bootle Belle - not Bell  - it was scouse bargeman humour that his barge from Bottle docks looked beautiful. That was the trip to celebrate the Coronation in 1953. I also recognise Marjorie Farrer who lived next door to Coppulls in Lambshear Lane, Alan Kelly who lived in the house at the drum yard and Alan ODonnell.

 It strikes me that there were a lot of children in lower Lambshear Lane and around the Southport Road junction in those days and we would  all play in Lambshear Lane and the school playing field because there was next to no traffic in the 1950s down our Lane. The school caretaker was called Anderton and in those days he chased us off the field and back on the Lamne . We christened him    Andit the Bandit         and he cycled to and from school down the Lane and lived in the cottages by the swing bridge opposite where the Co-Op used to be on Southport Road. My Father, Richard Shacklady is back row 2nd gent from left , I am sat down in the middle between all the girls, can not see my sister or Mum who were there, perhaps inside the barge because my sister was only 2 at the time. My father and Uncle- Thomas Shacklady, who both lived at Laburnum Cottage with their mother and 2 maternal Aunts are on the middle standing row of that picture. Father used his 12 bore farmers shotgun as his weapon and at that time he met my mother ,Elsie Duxbury from Blackburn,  who was serving in the Womens Land Army stationed at Halsall , working for the Rothwells on their farms in Aughton stretching to Downholland. My Uncle Tom died at Laburnum Cottage in Christmas 1969 by that time living alone , he never married. He frequented the Running Horses and the Hare and Hounds regularly and I have his medals from winning darts matches.

Thanks to Richard for these fantastic memories.



Joan Walsh has sent in this photo below, taken on 5th June 1958 .and writes,

"It  is of the first communicants from  Our Lady's RC School (St Joseph's), Hall Lane.

The boy fourth from the right is my husband (Tony Walsh), he was six years old at the time :-)

I was wondering if it would be possible, through your site,

to see if anyone is able to identify the other children and perhaps source a photo of the school ?

Thanks for any help you can give,

Regards,

Joan Walsh. "

L-R

Francis Bennett, Philip (Yonkers ?) Paul Farnsworth, Susan ? Monica Greenall,

Tony Walsh,Phil Rigby, Christopher Bond, Michael Farnish(or could be Peter Harnish)



Janet Galloway.....Memories of Lydiate


"thought you might be interested to know that the Rose Queen in the third photo is my mum ..Kathleen Allin {now Harker}

She's still beautiful and now lives in Alva ..Central Scotland.

The Allin family home was in Southpord Road...Annie And Eddie , who where my my lovely grandparents  continue to guide how we all try to live our lives .

Mum married Ian Harker  at St Thomas' in 1957..my brother and us 3 girls moved from Coppull rd to Rufford in about 1967 ..

..then back to Mallory Avenue when it was brand new until we made the big family move to Scotland in 1974 .

Sadly Dad died a few years ago and we miss him, but most of us live close by.

Lorna is the far flung one and lives on Cape Cod .

Ian ,Joan and Helen Cowan are my cousins.

What a legacy Annie and Eddie have left ..the Scottish branch alone has 4 grandchildren Janet, Andrew, Sheena,Lorna,

6 great grandchildren,Ruth,Amy,Becky, Mark,Kendal and Heather,

and 2 great-great grandchildren Daisy 9, and Lewis 3..

I hope this is of interest to people.

I was (at St Thomas school )the same age as Christine Rimmer and Christine Baty and went to Ormskirk Grammar with them.

I'm very proud of my family and my Lydiate connections .

Thanks for the site and for listening , please feel free to share this

I know that mum keeps up to date with local goings on .

Love to Lydiate ..miss the sense of belonging somewhere...Janet Galloway{Harker}"


Just to let you know my Dad Jonas "Ted" Smith aged 83, passed away peacefully after a short illness last week.


 He posted many memories on here of his life in Lydiate where he lived at the family home  in Southport Rd.

John Smith

(posted 26th Feb 2012)


Jill Hetherington has written with her memories of Lydiate

Found the site by chance and much enjoyed all the comments and pics.
 I'm Jill Hetherington formerly Jill Thomas and lived in Lydiate at 31 Moss Lane with Mum and Dad, Mary and Eric, and my brother Peter who's
4 years older than me, from when I was born in 1949 until 1957 when we moved to Crosby.Peter is on the first 2 Rose Queen photos - I think he was about 7 then
which would have been 1952.  We are both on the photo of Lydiate CE School, Peter back row 5th from the right and me front row 6th from the right. 

That photo must have been taken in 1955 or 1956 as I was about 6 and Peter maybe 10. 

We have the photo still and Pete wrote most of the names on the back,he knew nearly all of them, and remember this was the whole school!

The friends I really remember well were Jane Roulston, Joan Duncan, Linda and Helen Silcock, also our neighbour at no 29 Moss Lane, Dorothy Bell.

 
I also remember Anne Daley who has posted on the web-site and her brother John.

I started at the school in Mrs Carr's class in 1953 when I was only 3!  You were supposed to be 5 but Mrs Carr said I could go as my brother was
there already.  We have a newspaper cutting somewhere of Mr Dawber's retirement and I presented flowers to Mrs Dawber because I was the
youngest child in the school - summer 1953 I think.  In the cutting it says '5 year old Gillian Thomas' when in fact I was 3.
 
I remember my first day at school quite clearly.  I was crying and Mrs Carr carried me into the classroom and plonked me on the rocking horse
and I stopped instantly!  I remember the coal fire and the big fireguard.  We have some photos of that classroom.  For the year before
we moved I was in Miss Halsall's class.  Years later when I had been teaching myself for a year I went to Miss Halsall's retirement 'do'.  I
remember that she had had only 3 half days off in over 40 years of teaching - all 3 for funerals.
 I remember watching the Coronation on the Bells' TV set, we didn't have a TV and nor did most families.  Lots of memories of playing out in the
fields and along the canal and although I was only 5 or 6 the road names are all familiar - Pilling Lane and Sandy Lane and Silver Birch Way. 
The Rose Queen was a big event every year and I was a petal strewer one year and a train bearer another year.  We still have photos of those occasions.
 I was sad to leave Lydiate in 1957 and couldn't understand why my parents had bought a house in town with a tiny garden and no fields
around!  Linda Silcock and Joan Duncan both gave me books as presents when I left with inscriptions saying 'remembering our happy days at
Lydiate School' - and I still have the books.


Having read a post from someone about Miss Mansley the piano teacher I remember that I had piano lessons with her and my Mum used to put me on
the bus at Moss Lane and told me I had to say 'a penny to Needens Lane please'  !! I can't have been more than 5 - may be only 4!!
 I live in Leicestershire now  - I did go back to Lydiate to have a look round a few years ago and it all looked slightly strange through adult
eyes.  I'd love to hear from anyone who remembers me or Peter - he lives on Anglesey now.
 e-mail:   jill@grayhetherington.co.uk


Lydiate Rose Queen 1950-1952 ?




   Dave Hunter has some memories.


 I lived in Lydiate from 1960 until 1977 at 2 Moss Lane.  There is a photo from Lydiate C of E school around 1968 by Jeremy Woodward

asking for other names on it.
 
Ian Cowan and his sister, June McCardle, Robert and Pamela Holdsworth, Paul Blundell and his sister, Anne Louise Edwards, Simon Fitzgerald

and me Dave Hunter.

  Anyone remember Hettie Halsall who rode her bike to work every day.  Obviously and sadly Fred Glazier and his daughter Andrea who was in my class...
 
I remember Joe Popes shop, anyone remember Mrs Balls garage next to St Thomas's old school? 

My house was opposite Jack Halsalls fruit and veg shop.  I worked on a Sunday morning for Mr Stanley in his newsagents.

  I have many more memories from that time, all good.   My Mum worked in the Weld Blundell for a time.
 

Bells Lane 1940's-50's



Dinky Toy photo-321 Lydiate Ribble Bus

Thanks to Ted Smith

This bus used to run in the 1960's/1970's to Lydiate and turn around at the Weld Blundell triangle.



Lydiate Rose Queen 1960's???



Some memories from" Holly"

A very nice website that brought back lots of memories of happy times as a child.

My Dad parked his van down Sandy Lane at the farm where I used to ride a cow! 

The farmer gave me straw for the rabbit at home and two eggs for my Mum! 
 
 I watched the first episode of Dr. Who with Angela Tanner from Mayfair Avenue (I think). 
 
 I went to Our Lady's school which is really St. Josephs in Hall Lane.


 Every Wednesday the men came to empty the toilet bins - no flushing loos down there! 


 Mrs. Ward was the Head Mistress. 
 
 I used to walk the Old English Sheepdog that lived at the Rope House! 
 
Denise Jones lived in the 'Cornflake House' opposite Sandy Lane.
 
Father Brown from Our Ladys had a housekeeper, can't remember her name


but all the children from my class went to see her get married!
 
So many happy memories - Holly


Jennifer Galvin has sent this photo of a trip on "The Bootle Belle."


She writes, " I don't remember much about Lydiate unfortunately,but my relatives loved it.

We lived in Lydiate until 1956 when we emigrated to the U.S.

The photo is of a trip on the Bootle Bell to celebrate the Queen's Coronation in 1952.

It might bring back some good memories to quite a few people.

Thanks,

Jennifer  Galvin




                           

Jean Carr remembers moving to Lydiate



My family moved to Lydiate in 1943 in the middle of the war....


we got there before our furniture arrived .


We were hungry so were told to go to a shop near the Weld  Blundell which was called "Pinkies" .


We bought buns and lemonade!  my mother was not pleased!  


My sister and I used to lie on top of the air raid shelter at the bottom of Lambshear Lane


in the blackout and look at the stars which were so bright.


I remember V.E.Day when we had a huge bonfire  where Haigh  Crescent  is now .


Holidays were spent potato picking  and pea picking....we got 6pence a basket..          



A GOOSE FOR CHRISTMAS by TED SMITH(ex Lydiate Lad)


I cannot remember the exact year,it would be around the end of the second world war, at that time Lydiate Parish Hall was very well used,there were dances  and whist drives as well as dramas and comedies put on by the locals.The only player I can remember was Tommy Moorcroft,who used to live in a thatched cottage four hundred yards on the right down Station Rd towards the railway.

              My mother was a dab hand at whist,this particular year she won the first prize,which was a token for a goose,to be collected just before Christmas. Going along the canal bank on my bike to Rimmer's Bridge,then turning left into Greens Lane past Mercers where the water wheel used to be, to the farm which was next on the left on the corner,where I was to collect the prize from.The token was handed to the farmer,who said to me pointing to a flock of geese,"which one do you want?",I pointed to the fattest one,whereupon he picked it up,expertly swung it round and passed it to me still fluttering, "don't worry it's dead," he said.With that I went on my way.

             To win a goose at the time was a big deal,as we had just gone through a major war,when food rationing prevailed and a bird of any sort was rare indeed.I was given the job of plucking it,which I did,only to find that my trousers were soaked  but every cloud having a silver lining,we had enough grease to last us through a couple of winters.Goose grease smeared on your chest and back and covered with brown paper was a universal remedy for colds and flu at that time,(messy but effective).The sight of my  mother drawing the goose,with a Tenner cigarette hanging from her mouth,is still clear in my mind.At that time you could not buy birds from the supermarket which were oven ready and shrink wrapped.

             In my eighty first year some recollections of  early days spent in Lydiate are very vivid,though sometimes it would be difficult for me to recall what happened yesterday.

 

Ted Smith

 

 

Lydiate Barge Youth Club Members (1968-1970???)

 

If anyone has any information about this photo please get in touch.

 

It may have something to do with the opening of

 

Lydiate Youth Club around 1960??


Kay Davies has some memories about it.............


Hi, Regarding the photo which somebody thought  had something to do with

Lydiate Youth Club.Yes it was .The man standing next tothe lady with the

flowers[Miss Barnes?],on her left is Dick Davies.

He was one of the main instigators who got the club started and was

the first leader of it too. The man 8th from the right was Councillor Collier.

Much fund raising was done prior to the club opening in Lambshear Lane.

I think the dances at the Lydiate Parish hall were fund raisers.

Also the Gala on the Parish hall field.I think the club opened a little later than 1960

more like 65 but can't be sure.It was a great time though.

We made curtains and painted the walls and ran the little coffee bar.

I think the founding members of the club

will look back fondly on those early years .

It would be interesting if anybody else can name others in the photo.


Mike Greenall remembers Lydiate Youth Club also...


I was also one of the first members of Lydiate Youth Centre, having been recruited by Shirly Collier (daughter of Councilor Collier)

 on the school bus coming home from Crosby.I was on the Youth Comittee which used to meet in Dick Davis' house before

the club was completed. I remember Kay and Steve being there. I was also involved in the refurbishment of the building

which I believe, had originally been a building contractor's hut.We spent a lot of  time there helping the adult volunteers with re-

wiring, building toilets and  coffee bar etc. It was a very enjoyable time as I remember.

I was 16 at the time and just about to leave school, a long time ago now!!


The Youth Club photo
 

I think the chap on the left with the beard is John Kirkham who owned a tractor and trailer.

This was often made use of when any heavy items were to be moved,it was also as a float in village parades.

He bought the field next to the Parish Hall and let the club use it for Bonfire Night celebrations

until he built his house on it and opened a riding school and stables there.

My own daughter learned to ride there in later years.

I can't name the dark haired chap next to him,but I think he was the man

who organised the monthly fell walks in the Lake District during the club's early years,

he later moved out of the area. The short chap on the far right was,

I think, a carpenter / electrician by trade and I, amongst others helped him with building and wiring

in the construction phase of the club. I can't remember his name.



 

 

Old Photo of the Waterwheel at Lydiate 1910's, Greens Lane

Thanks to

http://www.oldukphotos.com


A website with many old photos of the United Kingdom


LYDIATE SHOPS

 

 
 

Karen and Neil


remember Coronation Road shops.


 

Do you remember Timewells or the hairdressers called Maison Jeanne ???(Supposed to be pronounced in a French Accent)


But everyone called it Mason Jeans!  Kidgers was a fab sweet shop .There was Scotts on the left hand corner as you face the shops,then there was the

greengrocers, the butchers, Kidgers,Houseproud (which included the post office at the back),


the hairdressers (John the barbers above), Timewells and the off licence at the other end. Kidgers was far better than Kemps on the corner of Green Lane.


Timewells the toy shop, smelt of new bikes and sold everything from dolls to airfix. An Alladin's cave for kids full of things you could only dream of.   The


veg shop was called Fresh Food and was owned by the Roberts family  Ken Kidger the news agent...............................


Alison remembers Moss Lane shops

I bet none of you remember Scotts supermarket [that's where the kiddies Nursery is?Jack Halsall's fruit and veg-where The Business is.

Foxs Post Office and habadashery (What's haberdashery I hear you ask?)  -now the Tea Room .It was then taken over by Bill + Doreen Blackwell,the

  post -office remained, but the shop was changed into a a general grocery store.Stanleys was started by old Mr Stanley-he was a lovely gentleman

 have a long standing fondness of this shop which has more endeared to me since the lovely Ray took it over.Of the new block (well it's newer than the rest

 I  remember them getting built)  There was Chris the butcher in the end one, Snips the hairdressers in the middle. It later got took over by Val who worked

there , then a bookies before it was The Mace.Oh those were the days ha ha ! XX




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Joe Pope's  general shop opposite The Mace

 

 

and the shop on Lollies Bridge !!!!!

 

The shops on Lollies Bridge were built by a Mr Boote,
 
there were four of them complete with flats
 
 and when we moved to the house on Lollies Bridge in 1937
 
only one shop was occupied by a Mr Roscoe
 
who lived in the flat above it and delivered in a Wolseley car
 
( I remember it as the badge on the front used to light up),
 
he was followed by a Mr Iles.
 
The shop diagonally opposite the Weld Blundell Arms
 
 was occupied by Mr Gittins
 
who used to cater for cycling clubs on Sunday mornings.
 
If i am not mistaken Joe Pope married his daughter.
 
Ted Smith

NEW   
        Phil Molyneux recalls Coronation Road shops.......

Reading throughthe information you have missed out one shop-SADIE'S.

This shop used to sell wool for knitting and such things.

I remember the cigarette machine outside KIDGERS.

I won a goldfish at the fair on the corner of Lambshear Lane and  Sandy Lane.

What about the free bus on a Sunday morning to take people from Coronation

 Road shops to St. Thomas church. Although I vaguely remember the shop on
 
Lollies Bridge I do remember the mobile shop which came around the estates as

 did Freshfoods-this was more like a mini bus(grey).

The garage (before the ICI  and flats)on the corner of Liverpool Road was

Harry Johnson's?

 

 

Simple pleasures

Lydiate canal 1960's

The photo you have put in memories called "Simple Pleasures"
 
taken in the 1960,s evoked recollections for me.
 
The first boat moored on the right was owned by a Mr Mahaffey.
 
 It was an ex -ships lifeboat which he bought
 
and had towed from Liverpool by a barge.
 
He was a very clever engineer who round about that time
 
owned or rented"Mecanix"which sold electrical items.
 
 It was the second shop on the right in Moss Lane
 
going towards Sandy Lane junction.
 
The first television set we ever had was purchased from him.
 
Ted Smith
 

 

 Memories of growing up in Lydiate in the 1960's
Lydiate was a lot more rural,the housing estates had not yet been built, at Mallory Avenue, Weld Blundell and Mannion Avenue. You could see the canal bank when walking along Southport Road,and the farm at Sandy Lane had a wide row of Poplar trees, artists used to come and sketch the scene.The children's park at Sandy Lane was directly opposite where St Gregory's school entrance is now.There was a shop on the bridge at Lollies Bridge and also Joe Pope's shop  in the house opposite the Mace store.You could walk down to the canal at Lollies Bridge on the other side of the bridge, the footpath went where the large white house has been built, and there was a boat house further along, with access to the Parish hall /St. Thomas school playing field. St Thomas School was on the site of  The Sheiling Nursing Home and there was a JET petrol station next door.One of the bungalows on Liverpool Road  just past the flats was a general shop,and there were shops at Bells Lane Bridge,a general shop, a hairdressers,a betting shop at one time and the coal yard opposite. Wallis's  travelling fair used to set up on the field at the corner of Sandy Lane and Lambshear Lane once or twice a year,a great event to us children and teenagers.The red Ribble buses ran regularly through the village,the 311,302,303,101,341,411 and the 412. Miss Leonard had a dance/ballet school off one of the roads at the bottom of Coronation Road,where Saturday morning lessons were held. There was also a piano teacher in the house opposite St.Gregory's Church next to the Path through to Haigh Crescent, and I can't remember her name.Lydiate Youth Club on Lambshear lane was a great meeting place,crowds of youngsters used to meet up once or twice during the week and on Friday evenings there was usually a disco which attracted gangs of teenagers from all over the area.There was also the St Thomas youth club on a BARGE! Honest. It was moored along the canal bank at Bells Lane bridge but on the opposite side of where the towpath now is. The vicar at the time Mr.Ward ran it, and we used to walk along the canal bank in the pitch black to reach it.

Kay Davies has written some of her memories

Some may remember me as Hockenhull! Who remembers Ken Kidgers little wooden hut up by the garage where the bowling club is. I was taken there after school for liquorice root and red candy whistles!It was quite exciting when the row of shops were built and we had a self service supermarket. Was it called Scotts? I believe it may have been. I remember in the winter we couldn't get across the fields from Highgate Road to Lambshear Lane and we had to go all the way around Dodds Lane {which used to flood, }by Timewells Coach. There were lovely ponds in the fields where Coronation and Ridgeway are now. We spent many happy hours climbing up the willows which overhung them and watching the frogs below.They would be deemed a hazard now and filled in for the safety of the children. What a lot they miss nowadays. We used to take a picnic up there in summer and nobody worried if we were gone all day. At night in the summer we had cricket matches or rounders, adults and children together. No TV or playstations.They don't know what they are missing.

Tim has some memories of the local area

Hi there,   although I do not live in Lydiate I have fond childhood memories of the area, particularly the park on Poverty Lane. 

 

I think I must have been around seven or eight at the time, this would be 1976 or 1977, and my parents, myself and my two younger brothers would bundle into the car, with plenty of provisions, and drive up from Norris Green, where we lived at the time, to the park on Sundays, or any day really if it was during the school holidays and the weather was fine.

 

My brothers and I would quite happily spend all day exploring the park.  Though a few things have stuck in my mind in particular.   If I'm remembering correctly there was a long concrete tube we used to play in and a ladder set horizontally between two trees.  

 

Last but by no means least was an old disused boat with a funnel whose hull had been filled with concrete,  I dont know who decided to place it in the park but as far as I'm concerned it was a stroke of genius.  It became, in our childs minds eye, each in turn either a pirate galleon, a spaceship or a ship marooned in the Bermuda triangle.  Put simply we loved that boat.

 

I hope I am remembering correctly.

 

I recently began coming up to Lydiate again and was glad to still find it a very pleasant place to visit.

 

 

Ted Smith shares more memories
 
Hello,
 It must have been the early 1930's when we first moved to Lydiate .My first recollections are of Woods Cotttages on Southport Road, opposite what then was a saw mill ,next door  to which Miss Haskayne uses  to make black puddings and other associated  pig products. She lived in a house with a small wooden hut in front, from which she used to sell her various wares. There was also a barge launched from the boat yard .This was quite an event at the time, all the locals turned out to see it. When it closed the yard became the Meridia drum works. Waltons coal yard was across the swing bridge next to the Running Horses ,and a farmer from Lambshear Lane called Mr Berry use to service the privys'.
The wallpaper on my computer is a picture of the woods surrounding Lydiate Old Hall, it is full of bluebells which brings me to my next thing remembered. We lived on Lollies Bridge at this time and often used to visit Lydiate woods- an old wooden caravan was parked in the woods, it was occupied by a chap called Walter Jarvis who use to plod around the village on a green bicycle. He dealt with minor ailments and was an expert in boils and carbuncles.
Mr Dawber was in charge of the village school, it was next to the parish hall then. He was assisted by Hetty Halsall and though some of his methods now would be regarded  as infringements of personal liberty, he certainly got results. A few years passed , my summer holidays were  mostly spent at Rose Farm in Station Road. Feeding the pigs was one of my chores, they were mostly fed with chats which were small potatoes boiled up with an occasional shovel of slack( small coal). A green vulcan wagon delivered vegetables from the farm to ships and nunneries and other institutions throughout Liverpool. The farm was then owned by Tom Haskayne. The bus which operated the Preston service from Liverpool is in my recollections as the 311, which took us to Ormskirk Grammar School for a number of yeaars, then as my end of term  report did not make good reading I was apprenticed to a large bus company.
Cars were rare at the time, most people travelled by bus, the 321 used to turn around at the triangle opposite  The Weld Blundell and the 302 went to Southport.
 Albert Orrin was mine host at the Scotch Piper when we were old enough to spend a good night there,
 
Ted Smith

PLANE CRASHED IN LYDIATE(in 1942)


 

During the early part of the war,when in my teens I heard on the local grapevine that a plane had landed in Lydiate somewhere near Rimmers Bridge.

Going along Southport Rd into Hall Lane then into Greens Lane past what used to be Mercers Farm over Rimmers swing bridge and taking a sharp left hand turn on my bike, I went along  for approx: quarter of a mile until the lane takes a sharp right hand turn, there was the plane, between the road and the canal, it had made a perfect wheels up landing and was virtually intact.

The aeroplane  a Bolton Paul Defiant was a twin cockpit machine,then used as a night fighter,with four Browning machine guns being operated from the rear cockpit.

There was nobody with it at that time,I closely examined the machine guns (which were still loaded ) though now it is my suspicion that the guard was in a nearby farmhouse having his break and watching the plane from there.

 During the second world war,I visited two other plane crash sites one at Scarth Hill Nr Ormskirk where  the plane was almost intact (again a Bolton Paul Defiant),and one opposite the Kings Head pub at Haskayne,the plane in that instance hit the ground at speed  and was in pieces,so it was not possible to identify it.

 

 

Ted Smith(an ex: Lydiate Lad)

 

Mrs Robinson's Class

Lambshear Lane School 1952-53

(thanks to Pat for this, also Sandra  Craig-Howard too)

 

 

Back row - Linda Noble, Jean Ashcroft, Joyce Timewell, Brian ?,  Diane Whiting, Carol?

Alex Berkely, Dorothy Cleator, Michael Sandiford, dont know.

 
Second row down -  Ian Pickup(the headmaster's son) Sandra Howard, Gordon Green, dont know,
 
 
 Glenys Jones,Estelle Lancaster, dont know,don't know,Irene Lowe,Patricia Foulkes
 
 
Third row down - Evelyn Taylor(Terry), Brian Sefton?, Brenda Whittle, dont know,
 
 
Kathleen Ambrose,don't know, don't know,Brian Williams, Iris Brown, Ian Risk
 
 
Front row  Pauline Brierley, Sandra Taylor, Patricia Finn, Roger Parry, Brian Armstrong, Jacky
 
 
Carr, Sheila Briggs, Helen Morley
 

 

Families enjoying Lydiate canal in the 1960's

 

 

Lydiate C.E School Christmas Party

 

Does anyone know when this was taken or who is in it  ???


NEW     Thanks to Jed Woodward for the following information.

This was taken about 1968/69.

Some names are Timmy Tullet, Val Oakes, Debbie Tobin, David Leyland,

Robert Lennon, Alison Lennon,Andy Reade.



 


 

 Patricia has sent this old photo of the Running Horses taken probably around 1924!!

 

 

 

 

    St Thomas school photo taken probably around 1950

Mrs Carr the headmistress is on the right.

The list of names is available.

St.Thomas school logbook from 1910

Click here to see a page of the old log book.

Thankyou to Patricia for sending this.

You may need to zoom in to read it!!

 

 

The Scotch Piper around 1943

(Thanks to Patricia for this photo)

 

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St Thomas church monthly magazine, The Herald,

always has a few pages about local history in it, written by local retired farmer Ron Rigby.

St Gregory's R.C. Church has a brochure celebrating  the past 50 years.

There are memories, photographs and snippets of history of the parish in the past 50 years.

 St Gregory's School Silver Jubilee video

A great video to watch is the St Gregory's School Silver Jubilee video

 which has footage from the late 1960's ,70's up to 1993.

There are scenes of Lydiate, the school being built,

the children, teachers and it gives a good idea of the mood of the 60's.

Excellent music from the era too.

Old Photographs

There are some fantastic photos of the canal at Lydiate

 on the ukcanals website-go to photo album/old photos.

http://www.ukcanals.net

 

Does anyone have any information about a painting of Lydiate Abbey

by the Liverpool School artist Joseph Edward Worrall ?

It was painted in 1856.

 

      Did you know............

 

* The Scotch Piper is the oldest Inn in Lancashire.

 

It was formerly called  The Royal Oak, the Bagpipes and Old Lolly.

 

Tony Blair once popped in for a drink there in December 1999.

 

*Our Lady's Church originally had a spire.

 

* Billy's Bridge was named after a nearby farmer William Jackson.

 

* Lydiate's first nursing home was at Oakhill House

 

on Liverpool Road .It was demolished in 1950.

 

       * Rope House pre-dates the canal 1770 .

 

The Izzat family made ropes on this site until the 1940's. 

 

*The poet Gerard Manly Hopkins stayed at Rose Hill Villa in Pygons Hill Lane

 

 where it is said he was inspired to write, "Spring and Fall ."  

 

* The mill on Liverpool Road  is (was) called Forest's Mill. 

 

There was another mill behind Our Lady's church. 

 

 

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Gu